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Deep question from an elder
« Thread Started on Jul 15, 2009, 11:22am »
I got an email from an elder today who asked me why men are not interested in a close walk with God. I thought I'd lob it into this court to see what kind of volley we could start.
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Re: Deep question from an elder
« Reply #1 on Sept 29, 2009, 12:54pm »
Many have gotten used to 'kinda/sorta' religion.
Less involvement in 'outside the area' events may have added to the problem.

Remember when folks 'went to' church events?

Now it's hard to get them to 'show up' for OUR stuff. :P
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Re: Deep question from an elder
« Reply #2 on Sept 30, 2009, 8:05pm »
Lets face it. There are alot of gods in our culture designed to take our eye off the ball. What really bakes my noodle is that even when some are in great spiritual need they go into recluse. Either way its root is selfish. Ah the good old days. Or was it just that we were younger and more willing to see only the good?
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Re: Deep question from an elder
« Reply #3 on Oct 19, 2009, 10:24am »
Is it the perception of this elder?

Can one have a closer walk with God without coming to all the church's programs?

I think we equate Men not showing up for all our events with failure.

Perhaps that is where one needs to start. It use to be the church was the social center of the community - not any more. So how does our culture go from being the social center to that of being salt and light??? Hmm seems this is more about being a NT Church like never before than having all the programs and events to make men come to you - but you rather go to them.
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Re: Deep question from an elder
« Reply #4 on Oct 19, 2009, 10:25am »
Is it a root to selfishness or was the root to selfishness in the past because we were so busy in the holy huddle rather than reaching people and being examples in our community???
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Re: Deep question from an elder
« Reply #5 on Oct 19, 2009, 5:00pm »
I suggest a couple reasons why many men aren't interested in a closer walk with God is because it isn't a task that can be "checked off." First, men, as we know, are linear and task-oriented; a closer walk with God is a relationship and with it comes all the stuff that accompany any active relationship. Second, we men are "doers", and I think much of a closer relationship with God involves "being." Yesterday's sermon discussed simplicity, solitude, and silence. "Be still [stop, cease] and know [or learn, acknowledge, profess] that I am God" says Psalm 46; but we know how painful it is for us men to show up and shut up!
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Re: Deep question from an elder
« Reply #6 on Oct 19, 2009, 9:02pm »
Women are certainly more social creatures. Even at early ages. I have two daughters who can round up a dozen other girls at the drop of a hat. Men were probably used by God as elders and spiritual leaders just to get them interactive outside of sports and such. I joke with my daughters about being "a lone wolf" but on numerous occasions it would have been my preference. Owwwww
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Re: Deep question from an elder
« Reply #7 on Oct 21, 2009, 5:04pm »

Oct 19, 2009, 9:02pm, joshua wrote:
Women are certainly more social creatures. Even at early ages. I have two daughters who can round up a dozen other girls at the drop of a hat. Men were probably used by God as elders and spiritual leaders just to get them interactive outside of sports and such. I joke with my daughters about being "a lone wolf" but on numerous occasions it would have been my preference. Owwwww


i use to think that but now I now that even man was not meant to be alone. We pretend that we are but notice we even have others around us.
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